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黃島主 | 23rd Mar 2010, 12:54 AM | 島主生活日記 | (2179 Reads)

陳志雲近日那場記者會,看完後,真的讓我拍案叫絕。

我真的很高興,原來在香港裏,我們還有一個有這樣風采的演說者。當然,您對他的演說看法,未必和我欣賞的角度相同。當我在Youtube上看那個記者會的同時,我亦留意在該Youtube上的網絡留言。留言中,大部份都是恥笑志雲讀稿、背書、無恥、無誠意。

我覺得,這都是bullshit。

一個真正的演說,是先要明確地告訴聽眾自己的立場。次要的,是要感染台下聽眾。是否無恥,根本不重要。

我一向認為,演說者,一定要相信自己演說的內容。只要您信,您才會有那種感染力,來感動聽著您演說的人。演說的內容,根本不用理會當中的對與錯。

「信」,是演說的基礎。

假設您演說的內容,大概是太陽是由東方升起,這不會有難度。因為,您一早已經堅信這個道理。您會發覺您在演說時,用不著去運用情感,運用理據,運用邏輯,來使聽眾明白。

不過,若您要演說一些具爭議性的題目,您就一定要堅信自己將說的,是您的信念,您的事實。就算未必是事實,您也一定要催眠自己那會是一個事實。您要有堅定的音韻,凌厲的眼神,鍥而不捨的表情,來告訴大家:這是一個事實。因為演說,其實也是騙局的一種。當您在一刻質疑演說者的內容時,您卻發現對方的面容、神情,皆不是嬉戲之時,您的信念,就會開始動搖,您會開始質疑自己原本所信的,是否正確。無論您最後是否跟隨演說者所說的,只要您一開始「思考」,演說者已經可以說是成功。

演說的內容,根本毋須是道德的,正確的,或是有禮有義有廉恥的。出色的演說家,是可以讓您相信一些原本您不相信的事實。不過,這是一個信念堅定的問題。這視乎演說者與聽眾兩者間信念的角逐。

演說最大的敗筆,是演說者自己也不大相信自己所說的。演說者,不是不可以讀稿,只要他相信稿子的內容,亦可。最弊的,是說出一堆連自己也覺得未必令人信服的說話。這些不是演說。這些,是笑話。

現時香港政府的官員,我認為一個似樣的演說者也沒有。當您看到他們無論在公眾場合,立法會發言時,都不能令人有信服的感覺。相反,聽眾感受到的,往往是傲慢和強行的態度。

陳志雲的那短短數分鐘的演說,已充分介紹了自己的信念。他說自己戴口罩是剃刀割傷,不想嫁禍ICAC;他說自己在記者在家外時,曾經數度避開傳媒外出。這一切,您信嗎?我未必信。但我未必信,是因為我沒有證據去盡信。同樣地反過來,您也證明不到他所說的是假話,但看他的眼神,又似是真事。您開始混淆信,或不信。

成功的演說家,就是能充分佔據所有灰色地帶,從而一步一步的,把您帶進自己信念的領域內。

您要知道,在這個世上,十個人裏面有一個是聰明的,已經算是多。其餘三個是較醒目的,那麼剩下的六個就是平庸。

出色的演說家,就是可以利用厲害的演辭,來感染這六個平庸的人。您若自當是聰明人,不受感染,但您亦同時輪為少數派。當您成為少數派時,您的信念就會開始被動搖。

所以,從來不要質疑演說者的內容是否合乎什麼道德標準。

正如我說,演說,可以看成是一個騙局。問題只是,騙您往好的地方,還是騙您到壞的地方。


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關鍵係陳先生可否感染台下觀眾.
他就感染不到我了.

逸之
[引用] | 作者 逸之 | 23rd Mar 2010 2:44 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]


關鍵係,某類動物,並不一定能感染,另一類動物。

[引用版主回覆] | 作者 黃島主 | 23rd Mar 2010 9:12 AM

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我聽陳志雲在記者會講話, 沒有改變我欣賞他的地方, 也不用矮化他, 我覺得一件事還一件事, 事件的真相遲些便揭曉, 我不用急著知答案o

個人感覺陳志雲的演說是柔中帶玄, 話中有話, 我還是比較喜歡Obama那種演說方式, 直接有力, 帶出高潮, 顯出一個領導者的風采, 令人折服o


[引用] | 作者 Linda | 23rd Mar 2010 4:46 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]


Obama那種無得講和比較的。他根本是一個世紀裏面所出現其中幾位最出色的演說者。

肯好他去選總統,否則做邪教教主,就大鑊。

陳生那種演說,我最覺得不好的,是帶點娘娘腔。但基本上,他做到「我信我說」的境界。

[引用版主回覆] | 作者 黃島主 | 23rd Mar 2010 9:17 AM

[3] Re: Linda
Linda :
我聽陳志雲在記者會講話, 沒有改變我欣賞他的地方, 也不用矮化他, 我覺得一件事還一件事, 事件的真相遲些便揭曉, 我不用急著知答案o
個人感覺陳志雲的演說是柔中帶玄, 話中有話, 我還是比較喜歡Obama那種演說方式, 直接有力, 帶出高潮, 顯出一個領導者的風采, 令人折服o


Linda: I also like Obama's communication style, whether you believe in what he tries to tell you or not. I think another reason why there are so few (or none) great public speakers in the HK government is because nobody wants to showoff or put themselves under the spotlight. The Confucious way of being humble and harmonious is ingrained in Chinese's DNA. So any demonstration of charisma, personality, or sometimes unconventional wisdom is often times considered arrogance or 'not conforming to the norm'. A lot of people think Stephen Chan's speech brings too much drama, but to me it's really nothing special knowing his typical style. If he simply reads a typical boring script written by his lawyers then I'm surprised.


[引用] | 作者 Jeff | 23rd Mar 2010 8:25 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]


i recall the old days of HK govt in colonies times. the officials were much charming at that times.

[引用版主回覆] | 作者 黃島主 | 23rd Mar 2010 9:19 AM

[4] Re: FosterCityEd

Let me say a few things about Chan's case:

1. I would like to read his contract w/ TVB and evaluate terms related to his compensation, authority and cause for termination. etc. to judge his boundary.

2.My gut tells me that this case is partly the result of failure of proper mgt. supervision on the part of TVB.. I think TVB bears a lot of responsible why Chan "got out of control". Chan's boss may have forgotten to watch him carefully and kept him in check.


[引用] | 作者 FosterCityEd | 23rd Mar 2010 8:45 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]


i agree the 2nd point very much. when u were at high and bright, mgt ignore your fault; but when mgt wants to do something, anything could be thrown out to do. even find something for legal suit.

[引用版主回覆] | 作者 黃島主 | 23rd Mar 2010 9:22 AM

[5] Re: FosterCityEd
FosterCityEd :
Let me say a few things about Chan's case:
1. I would like to read his contract w/ TVB and evaluate terms related to his compensation, authority and cause for termination. etc. to judge his boundary....


Yep. totally agreed. said previously tvb has problems with their internal control. will be written up by their auditors. no question about it. in the US, that means they have huge problems with Sarbannes Oxley...which is why i mentioned before TVB had to report the issue to the proper authorities voluntarily or else the whole organization would be complicated with fraud. enron, anyone?? ah...mentioning enron reminds me of anderson. felt bad for the firm even though a lot of those people were arrogant b...s.


[引用] | 作者 kittykat | 23rd Mar 2010 9:23 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]


let me guess this time, kittykat should be from Audit/Accounting area.

[引用版主回覆] | 作者 黃島主 | 23rd Mar 2010 9:28 AM

[6]

同意你讲法.

Adolf Hitler 都是一位出色的演说家, 出色的演说家只要感染别人就行了, 所讲的内容对错根本无所谓.


[引用] | 作者 小瓶子 | 23rd Mar 2010 9:37 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]


無錯丫。我正是在說他。

不要光說那時的德國人是如何愚昧。Hitler只要一個時代,一個地域,感染到一大幫人,這就是成功的演說家。

[引用版主回覆] | 作者 黃島主 | 23rd Mar 2010 9:46 AM

[7] Re: 黃島主
黃島主 :

let me guess this time, kittykat should be from Audit/Accounting area.


I second. Kitty ..I like you used the term "internal Control". Sweet. Master. You got some smart ppl on your forum.


[引用] | 作者 FosterCityEd | 23rd Mar 2010 10:09 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]

[8] Re: 黃島主
黃島主 :

let me guess this time, kittykat should be from Audit/Accounting area.



hahaha! close. tax. used to only do m&a. but now? whatever that brings in the dole.


[引用] | 作者 kittykat | 23rd Mar 2010 10:30 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]


u will never get lonely. even all companies get winding-up, u will still and r able to earn the last winding-up fees against them.

[引用版主回覆] | 作者 黃島主 | 23rd Mar 2010 10:53 AM

[9] Re: kittykat
kittykat :

黃島主 :
let me guess this time, kittykat should be from Audit/Accounting area.

hahaha! close. tax. used to only do m&a. but now? whatever that brings in the...


We have a CPA here?


[引用] | 作者 FosterCityEd | 23rd Mar 2010 10:38 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]

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[引用版主回覆] | 作者 黃島主 | 23rd Mar 2010 11:39 AM

[11] Re: Jeff

In a way, Obama's speech has fully shown his humble and harmonious characters as a leader. I like his speech style cos' he clearly expresses what he believes and what he wants to tell to the audiences. No matter I agree with him or not, when I listen to him, I don't need to make second guess. On the other hand, I've found some Chinese public speakers love to say a lot of nonsense. Sometimes whatever they say in words might not be the same as whatever they mean. Other times there's so much confusion that no one have any ideas of what the message is talking about. This reminds me an example from what 溫家寶 has recently commented on HK for the first and second times.


[引用] | 作者 Linda | 23rd Mar 2010 12:35 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

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我就被陳先生感染到, 其實整件事最後係點就只有當事人先最清楚!


[引用] | 作者 Alice | 23rd Mar 2010 12:47 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

[13] Re: 黃島主
黃島主 :
Obama那種無得講和比較的。他根本是一個世紀裏面所出現其中幾位最出色的演說者。
肯好他去選總統,否則做邪教教主,就大鑊。
陳生那種演說,我最覺得不好的,是帶點娘娘腔。但基本上,他做到「我信我說」的境界。

陳生感性的聲調是他的招牌, 男人帶點「溫柔」聲線, 哈哈, 我想, 你聽不慣而已。:)

好奇一問, 香港的大學有沒有public speaking這科? 我知道美國很多大學和學院都有這科, 以前讀書時, 這是必修科, 雖然讀完這科不包保人變成出色的演說家, 但一定幫到自己提高面對群眾說話時的技巧和自信心。


[引用] | 作者 Linda | 23rd Mar 2010 12:54 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

[14] Re: Linda
Linda :

In a way, Obama's speech has fully shown his humble and harmonious characters as a leader. I like his speech style cos' he clearly expresses what he believes and w...


Obama is aka the "Teleprompter President". For entertainment value, please see Obama's performance without IT. Not trying to be political here. Just some fun and a bot of balanced view from the opposite side of the political spectrum.

Peace!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hSnEMV58F8


[引用] | 作者 FosterCityEd | 23rd Mar 2010 12:59 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]


yes, it explains one should be well prepared before any successful speech. both talent and effort give weight.

[引用版主回覆] | 作者 黃島主 | 23rd Mar 2010 2:34 PM

[15] Re: FosterCityEd
FosterCityEd :
Obama is aka the "Teleprompter President". For entertainment value, please see Obama's performance without IT. Not trying to be political here. Just some fun and a bot of balanced view from the opposite side of the political spectrum.....

Hahaha! By all, Obama is only a human being. Just like you and I, not 100% perfect. :)


[引用] | 作者 Linda | 23rd Mar 2010 2:01 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

[16] Re: FosterCityEd
FosterCityEd :
Linda :

In a way, Obama's speech has fully shown his humble and harmonious characters as a leader. I like his speech style cos' he clearly expresses what he believes and w...

Obama is aka the "...



you know what, i've never really listened to a full speech from obama cos i know i would be irked big time. in any case, the influence of a US president is over rated. mr. bernanke, mr. geitner and the laws of demand and supply are at works here.


[引用] | 作者 kittykat | 23rd Mar 2010 2:59 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

[17] Re: FosterCityEd
FosterCityEd :
kittykat :

黃島主 :let me guess this time, kittykat should be from Audit/Accounting area.
hahaha! close. tax. used to only do m&a. but now? whatever that brings in the...

We have a CPA here?



damn! those boring bean counters!


[引用] | 作者 kittykat | 23rd Mar 2010 3:02 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

[18] Re: Linda
Linda :
In a way, Obama's speech has fully shown his humble and harmonious characters as a leader. I like his speech style cos' he clearly expresses what he believes and what he wants to tell to the audiences...


Linda, all politicians are created equal. don't let the seeming sincerity fool you. in the western world, politicians have to be nice to the publc or else they don't get elected. in china, politicians don't have to please the public to get elected. that's all the difference to it. don't believe for a second that politician from the west have higher aspirations than those from the east. that's called ideology.


[引用] | 作者 kittykat | 23rd Mar 2010 3:13 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

[19] Re: 黃島主
黃島主 :

u will never get lonely. even all companies get winding-up, u will still and r able to earn the last winding-up fees against them.



funny you mentioned this. i was with a firm whose specialty is in bankruptcy/liquidation (chapter 7)of business. i called it a mortuary business which i have no interest since they don't need any tax planning ideas.


[引用] | 作者 kittykat | 23rd Mar 2010 3:18 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]


i feel it boring too. but these businesses could help a professional firms from bankrupting together. haha

[引用版主回覆] | 作者 黃島主 | 23rd Mar 2010 3:26 PM

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這其實跟“說謊的藝術” 並無兩樣,也跟一個演員拿金像獎差不多,就是自欺欺人的最高境界。說說陳振聰的案,某個風水師說,就算陳找他改運,他也不會做,因那是傷天害理。我聼了,當下反應是: 他真的以爲自己是神!也是,看那麽多風化案,如果那些風水師不深信自己的性器官能解救眾生,又怎麽能騙倒那麽多人。


[引用] | 作者 嚴明 | 23rd Mar 2010 8:01 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

[21] Re: kittykat
kittykat :

Linda :
In a way, Obama's speech has fully shown his humble and harmonious characters as a leader. I like his speech style cos' he clearly expresses what he believe...


The point I tries to make was always have your jaundice eyes on politicians. They want to sell you their ideology like Kitty says.


[引用] | 作者 FosterCityEd | 23rd Mar 2010 10:16 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

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我果日趕paper冇去聽到= = 蝕左!


[引用] | 作者 makiyo | 23rd Mar 2010 10:39 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

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演說家, 騙子居多囉? 好怕....


[引用] | 作者 藍詩詩 | 24th Mar 2010 10:03 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]